1 00:00:00,05 --> 00:00:04,28 I May twenty first twenty thirteen will now take place with Mayor time to Ronnie 2 00:00:04,36 --> 00:00:10,22 residing and the meeting will start with the invocation by Pastor Ernest Caldwell 3 00:00:10,55 --> 00:00:13,88 from the Marcel Church of God in Christ at one fifty nine and 4 00:00:13,89 --> 00:00:20,74 a half California Joliet. Is by the place 5 00:00:21,09 --> 00:00:28,01 on May we span it. Out I have finished pray out and we would do the 6 00:00:28,02 --> 00:00:28,69 players do 7 00:00:28,70 --> 00:00:35,46 a legend of the United States flag Father we thank you they call we realize that 8 00:00:35,47 --> 00:00:41,14 you are God and besides you bear us no whether we pray for this break city of 9 00:00:41,15 --> 00:00:47,34 Joliet we pray for the marrow and I and all of those that I work in will 10 00:00:48,27 --> 00:00:54,91 go out we pray for the citizens of Joliet we pray for unity and not 11 00:00:54,92 --> 00:01:01,73 division and we pray for help that it might be your divine help that would help us 12 00:01:02,15 --> 00:01:08,80 but we need help now God we pray now that you might each and every one gill wills 13 00:01:08,81 --> 00:01:14,58 them and knowledge to the people we have to in Jesus' name we pray a man and 14 00:01:14,59 --> 00:01:21,13 a man. That of our space the players to imagine 15 00:01:21,55 --> 00:01:23,36 I know that just 16 00:01:23,73 --> 00:01:30,30 a little. Bit about America and the Republican war which it's time that 17 00:01:30,63 --> 00:01:36,80 one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all. 18 00:01:58,57 --> 00:02:05,25 And start with right here. On from here on from here when 19 00:02:05,73 --> 00:02:12,57 you're here and I want to hear from here that are here first and ten or 20 00:02:12,61 --> 00:02:14,70 twelve minutes from their most not the minutes of 21 00:02:14,71 --> 00:02:21,45 a special meeting of the council meeting so moved. The minutes of the. 22 00:02:22,48 --> 00:02:25,43 Council meeting held on May twentieth twenty thirteen in the regular meeting held 23 00:02:25,44 --> 00:02:28,33 on May twenty first twenty thirteen recorded. 24 00:02:33,03 --> 00:02:33,21 In 25 00:02:33,22 --> 00:02:42,07 a. Near drowning. Next 26 00:02:42,08 --> 00:02:47,55 council committee reports communication technology and information systems Well we 27 00:02:47,56 --> 00:02:53,06 met the same afternoon just before the council meeting and. I would like to read 28 00:02:53,62 --> 00:02:59,32 something out here we talked about the fiber optics for our downtown Joliet through 29 00:02:59,33 --> 00:03:06,17 the. Green with me and I am we look at 30 00:03:06,18 --> 00:03:08,24 this further and it's 31 00:03:08,25 --> 00:03:13,41 a footprint that we're going to look at the entire city footprint within the county 32 00:03:13,41 --> 00:03:16,58 . And it's going to be 33 00:03:16,59 --> 00:03:23,49 a driver for economic development it's really going to happen satisfy the demand 34 00:03:23,50 --> 00:03:30,31 for high speed. Networking with our computers and everything. And it be the 35 00:03:30,32 --> 00:03:36,33 roadmap for public interest and networking the cost is eight thousand dollars and. 36 00:03:37,72 --> 00:03:40,14 This is what they were going to look at and the entire city because I know 37 00:03:40,15 --> 00:03:46,13 councilman McParland. Make sure that it was throughout the city and that's what 38 00:03:46,14 --> 00:03:47,25 they're going to look at it will be 39 00:03:47,53 --> 00:03:52,10 a cost of eight thousand dollars but it will come out of the general fund. And its 40 00:03:52,12 --> 00:03:56,74 course as an intergovernmental agreement and which like anything. 41 00:03:59,79 --> 00:04:02,59 Else from one side it's actually. Going to be 42 00:04:02,60 --> 00:04:07,49 a road map letting us know about the feasibility of expanding our fiber optic which 43 00:04:07,50 --> 00:04:12,87 would help such things as the. Right businesses county offices would all benefit 44 00:04:12,88 --> 00:04:16,82 from it if it's feasible and when I can start to the council anyone can get 45 00:04:16,83 --> 00:04:22,35 a copy if they'd like are the issues the benefits. With you. But for the fiber 46 00:04:22,36 --> 00:04:27,12 optic network so basically the pros and the cat now not so many cars are basically 47 00:04:27,13 --> 00:04:32,24 pros and what's going to bring to our city and we voted to approve it and it's on 48 00:04:32,25 --> 00:04:38,95 the council Public Service Committee report. Of the public service 49 00:04:38,96 --> 00:04:44,75 committee is comprised of council Berber comes with federal myself in the planning 50 00:04:44,76 --> 00:04:51,35 conference room last evening prior to the we can also review the change order 51 00:04:51,72 --> 00:04:57,26 or past missed contracts fine while being or recommended approval we did table the 52 00:04:57,27 --> 00:05:02,92 one. Tract. Payment Merkins until for two weeks for. 53 00:05:07,12 --> 00:05:09,42 Other reports we did have a request for 54 00:05:09,43 --> 00:05:17,04 a speaker tonight. With 55 00:05:17,29 --> 00:05:24,07 me so. I thank you the. 56 00:05:25,31 --> 00:05:26,68 City council members 57 00:05:27,81 --> 00:05:34,07 a city staff. I bring you greetings from the forest community center 58 00:05:34,89 --> 00:05:41,56 and the reason I stand before you tonight is to thank you personally 59 00:05:42,15 --> 00:05:48,93 for the support and all of the help that you have given the Forest 60 00:05:48,94 --> 00:05:55,21 Park Community Center I would like the expansion thank Chief Trafton and the Joliet 61 00:05:55,22 --> 00:06:01,75 police department. Their efforts in our area is giving us safe 62 00:06:01,76 --> 00:06:08,70 passage on June tenth and we will be starting our summer camp and 63 00:06:08,71 --> 00:06:14,49 we will be having academic enrichment recreation all writing. 64 00:06:15,92 --> 00:06:20,60 For our youth in that area we are so delighted to have 65 00:06:20,93 --> 00:06:27,04 a neighborhood policing team thank you. And everything is going great 66 00:06:28,49 --> 00:06:35,01 the other reason that I'm here is because of this council. I just really want to 67 00:06:35,02 --> 00:06:41,96 say thank you. I'm here to say thank you so 68 00:06:41,97 --> 00:06:48,41 much you heard our need for the summer program and through your generous 69 00:06:48,42 --> 00:06:55,26 donation we are able to provide trees just slides every day from June 70 00:06:55,59 --> 00:07:00,37 and that's the first for our children so we thank you so much for that 71 00:07:03,17 --> 00:07:08,75 thank you for city staff the support that we get from you guys is just absolutely 72 00:07:08,76 --> 00:07:15,70 amazing and you. Know that you get you really go dancing you promise. 73 00:07:17,45 --> 00:07:24,21 But I certainly want to thank you sir to kick off our summer camp. You have 74 00:07:24,22 --> 00:07:29,36 provided us with tickets and the use of cities to raise to take the kids to the 75 00:07:29,54 --> 00:07:35,41 baseball game on the thirteenth so we certainly want to thank you for that staff 76 00:07:35,97 --> 00:07:40,62 the board of directors the community of Forest Park I would love to say thank you 77 00:07:41,09 --> 00:07:45,65 you're welcome and it comes from the whole Council not just for me. I just do 78 00:07:49,59 --> 00:07:49,59 . 79 00:08:08,54 --> 00:08:15,50 It's because. I'm my name is 80 00:08:15,51 --> 00:08:21,52 Jennifer grammer I live at ten nineteen Nicholson Street in Joliet motion to speak 81 00:08:22,22 --> 00:08:22,39 like 82 00:08:22,40 --> 00:08:29,71 a favor. Mr Mayor and City Council thank you for allowing me the opportunity 83 00:08:30,49 --> 00:08:35,28 on an issue that I feel is important to bring to your attention there has been some 84 00:08:35,29 --> 00:08:39,92 talk going on by some local groups to try and introduce an ordinance that will 85 00:08:40,16 --> 00:08:45,16 allow them to raise chickens within this Joliet city limits. We currently have 86 00:08:45,17 --> 00:08:50,59 chickens walking around our area which is the North Broadway area also there have 87 00:08:50,60 --> 00:08:56,78 been chicken sightings in the St Pat's area. St various areas on the east side of 88 00:08:56,79 --> 00:09:02,84 Joliet and also walking on black road and Midland Avenue we do not think that this 89 00:09:02,85 --> 00:09:08,09 is good for the city or the residents of Joliet for several reasons first it 90 00:09:08,10 --> 00:09:08,50 presents 91 00:09:08,51 --> 00:09:13,63 a health hazard second the city has no extra money to make sure this type of 92 00:09:14,12 --> 00:09:19,98 citizen forced the amount of check and third this opens the doors to other types of 93 00:09:19,99 --> 00:09:26,10 animals such as goats rabbits ducks pigs turkeys etc being raised at local 94 00:09:26,11 --> 00:09:31,65 residents and my personal experience the chickens in my area are generating 95 00:09:31,69 --> 00:09:34,12 a foul odor that can be smelled half 96 00:09:34,13 --> 00:09:38,55 a block away the waste to spread out into the alley and going in Tiaras where 97 00:09:38,56 --> 00:09:44,82 children like St Pat's St John's and Cunningham associations are asking you to 98 00:09:44,83 --> 00:09:49,38 please review the current ordinance regarding individuals keeping these kinds of 99 00:09:49,39 --> 00:09:54,62 animals within the city limits we have petitions from various spots around these 100 00:09:54,63 --> 00:09:59,60 areas asking that chickens not be allowed inside city limits and we are getting 101 00:09:59,61 --> 00:10:06,54 a lot more petitions signed. Thank you Mayor for our city council our 102 00:10:06,55 --> 00:10:12,59 police chief and his staff of officers. And his staff 103 00:10:13,42 --> 00:10:19,69 and the other workers throughout Juliet's and our city manager who make a Joliet 104 00:10:19,71 --> 00:10:24,79 a great place to thank you thank you I don't know who to ask you know. 105 00:10:26,88 --> 00:10:27,20 We got 106 00:10:27,21 --> 00:10:34,05 a lot of calls about chickens running. Career I don't believe we have. Will Follow 107 00:10:34,24 --> 00:10:38,82 up in work with Jennifer on making sure that the residents of her area and other 108 00:10:38,83 --> 00:10:45,19 areas are aware of the ordinance that. There yes I mean I ten of the Cathedral 109 00:10:46,14 --> 00:10:50,88 as well as cons not far away because my daughter Kirk and there was 110 00:10:50,89 --> 00:10:57,46 a lady there Mrs large talking about cheese lady proposing this but she told us 111 00:10:58,10 --> 00:11:03,31 the chicken they want an ordinance they were allowed to allow to allow chickens. 112 00:11:04,49 --> 00:11:09,46 And she said that Kendall jack son told her that he was already working on 113 00:11:09,47 --> 00:11:15,31 a plan for this is that and I said I haven't heard of that so. There's that sort of 114 00:11:15,53 --> 00:11:20,45 I don't think so no I and actually I know that we had this issue come up last year 115 00:11:20,79 --> 00:11:26,03 and Jim Heller in Kendal to look into what other communities are doing so we were 116 00:11:26,04 --> 00:11:27,19 ready in case there was 117 00:11:27,20 --> 00:11:32,55 a request to go that direction I think our recommendation would have been not to 118 00:11:32,56 --> 00:11:36,79 proceed with an ordinance that would have allowed live chickens to be raised in 119 00:11:36,80 --> 00:11:38,22 backyards we have 120 00:11:38,23 --> 00:11:42,26 a lot of smaller lots in the community and when I've looked at some of the 121 00:11:42,27 --> 00:11:45,79 organises from other communities or is a requirement in 122 00:11:45,80 --> 00:11:50,58 a lot of our lots would meet their requirements so you know I think in certain 123 00:11:50,59 --> 00:11:54,18 towns it may work but in ours it seems like it wouldn't work and I'm sure that was 124 00:11:54,19 --> 00:11:57,67 what he was referencing was the research we did last year into suppression of this 125 00:11:57,68 --> 00:12:03,07 issue Primus and I think so I don't think there's I can assure you there will not 126 00:12:03,08 --> 00:12:03,19 be 127 00:12:03,20 --> 00:12:06,79 a recommendation from the staff saying let's go with an ordinance that allows chickens 128 00:12:06,80 --> 00:12:13,77 in the backyard that's my. Understanding 129 00:12:14,09 --> 00:12:16,84 is an example isn't and one of the details is 130 00:12:16,86 --> 00:12:20,36 a thirty foot setback from any permanent structure which are all that eliminated 131 00:12:20,87 --> 00:12:26,61 the vast majority of buildings and. Yes that's what we looked at last year was what 132 00:12:26,65 --> 00:12:30,04 most doing because this was a very part it still is 133 00:12:30,05 --> 00:12:35,22 a popular issue and I know it's part of the urban farming movement but certainly 134 00:12:35,23 --> 00:12:41,55 supportive and farms and we help some organizations out with. Growing things but 135 00:12:42,16 --> 00:12:42,76 chickens pose 136 00:12:42,77 --> 00:12:46,28 a different issue and I think just considering that how many forty foot lots we 137 00:12:46,29 --> 00:12:49,79 haven't found sixty four lots it's going to be difficult to have 138 00:12:49,80 --> 00:12:56,09 a reasonable setback for raising the chickens that's on the started 139 00:12:56,72 --> 00:13:03,37 how do we police that if if in fact we allow an affiliation with one of the staff. 140 00:13:07,42 --> 00:13:11,42 Thank you guys one question if someone has 141 00:13:11,43 --> 00:13:17,73 a neighbor chicken. They call the police if someone sees say the 142 00:13:18,58 --> 00:13:18,87 chickens 143 00:13:18,88 --> 00:13:24,10 a black and white world walk and they call animal control they call Julia township 144 00:13:24,10 --> 00:13:30,44 . I think you know why don't we start with our planning department start with seven 145 00:13:30,45 --> 00:13:36,80 to four four zero four zero and let Jim Heller and his staff. Deal with it at an 146 00:13:36,81 --> 00:13:40,95 administrative level first if we need to involve the police department will 147 00:13:40,96 --> 00:13:42,97 certainly do that and then if we need to make 148 00:13:42,98 --> 00:13:49,55 a called Animal Control will do that too. OK thank you thank you which are 149 00:13:51,26 --> 00:13:57,68 the. Reports. That proposed city council housing authority committee has 150 00:13:57,69 --> 00:14:04,62 recommended the approach so moved. Comments just 151 00:14:04,63 --> 00:14:10,83 one year on right. Calls from the occur today and caucus afternoon but he was busy 152 00:14:10,84 --> 00:14:15,42 I was busy at work and couldn't talk but. You know I mean I have no problem with 153 00:14:15,43 --> 00:14:19,29 the committee but you know I think we heard from the Housing Authority last night 154 00:14:19,83 --> 00:14:24,90 and what the problems were and how they're remedy and I'd like to see forward to 155 00:14:24,91 --> 00:14:26,54 a committee to give them 156 00:14:26,55 --> 00:14:33,35 a chance to see what they are proposing to solutions for the objections of 157 00:14:33,36 --> 00:14:37,99 hardhead and see what grade they get and when they get there then decide if we need 158 00:14:37,100 --> 00:14:42,12 this committee and that's just. As 159 00:14:42,13 --> 00:14:47,80 a result of what we heard last night. I'm. 160 00:14:49,92 --> 00:14:54,93 Saying But actually if nothing else last night's meeting the committee that kind of 161 00:14:54,94 --> 00:14:58,76 a presentation and presentation is what we do with it whether it's the baseball 162 00:14:58,77 --> 00:15:01,62 committee the finance committee so I don't think we should hesitate to put the 163 00:15:01,63 --> 00:15:04,11 committee together because going forward that will be 164 00:15:04,12 --> 00:15:07,07 a preventative oversight so that we don't get ourselves in 165 00:15:07,08 --> 00:15:13,50 a bind again. Just for the record meetings are open to the public. 166 00:15:14,53 --> 00:15:16,29 When the time you want to attend 167 00:15:16,30 --> 00:15:23,26 a meeting you're more than welcome to oversee what's going. On 168 00:15:24,08 --> 00:15:28,28 they really didn't ask questions and since you're the chairman of the board what do 169 00:15:28,29 --> 00:15:34,61 you feel about all this and how Mr Sampson you know his presence 170 00:15:35,37 --> 00:15:41,07 just like your plan. That sometimes. 171 00:15:42,29 --> 00:15:44,11 You do your. 172 00:15:52,23 --> 00:15:57,82 Duty that I come before I got out here for everybody else to I've got 173 00:15:57,83 --> 00:16:03,94 a problem there now if it's feasible for me to do I think Michael Simon lived at 174 00:16:03,95 --> 00:16:04,87 a very good job. 175 00:16:12,60 --> 00:16:15,62 Not the Oversight Committee do you think. 176 00:16:20,88 --> 00:16:25,51 We can talk about. We've got to. 177 00:16:29,97 --> 00:16:30,16 Get 178 00:16:30,17 --> 00:16:37,87 a job to do the job and. I just think that. If I. Can 179 00:16:37,88 --> 00:16:38,82 get along with everybody. 180 00:16:46,96 --> 00:16:53,68 Else I dislike some clarification. From either staff or our from the mayor it was 181 00:16:53,89 --> 00:16:59,23 mentioned in one Council prior to me taking my seat here that we were 182 00:17:00,35 --> 00:17:05,57 basically having the staff member oversee the operations of the housing authority 183 00:17:05,58 --> 00:17:12,01 to make sure that agreement is being executed and my conversation with the few of 184 00:17:12,02 --> 00:17:16,06 the board members last evening and Mr Sam within there hasn't been anybody really 185 00:17:16,07 --> 00:17:20,06 over there working with them making sure we're executing this agreement I just want 186 00:17:20,07 --> 00:17:24,76 to have some clarification on the record and whether now we are actually having 187 00:17:24,77 --> 00:17:31,23 somebody. There overseeing the the agreement that the council approved but remember 188 00:17:31,24 --> 00:17:37,74 the council. Had one meeting with officials from the housing authority when the 189 00:17:37,75 --> 00:17:42,61 letter first came I did not ask Ken to follow up with additional meetings after 190 00:17:42,62 --> 00:17:44,00 that so we've not had 191 00:17:44,01 --> 00:17:50,70 a continuous presence over there I know going back about twenty years ago Mr Fraser 192 00:17:51,55 --> 00:17:56,20 was actually assigned to be the I believe the interim director at one point and we 193 00:17:56,21 --> 00:17:59,58 provided full staffing at it while they were in 194 00:17:59,59 --> 00:18:04,62 a transition between executive directors but we haven't gotten to that point yet I 195 00:18:04,63 --> 00:18:09,61 think we offered our services if they need anything but I haven't really followed 196 00:18:09,62 --> 00:18:11,53 up with them to ask if they need us there on 197 00:18:11,54 --> 00:18:16,21 a regular basis thank you but you know. 198 00:18:21,46 --> 00:18:26,32 Yeah I mean based on the presentation that I heard last night I think it's probably 199 00:18:26,33 --> 00:18:32,49 a pretty good idea that we use the word psych committee so. That's been. 200 00:18:37,07 --> 00:18:38,96 I mean this is 201 00:18:38,97 --> 00:18:43,29 a little late to give the board of and so I don't remember hearing. Chairman 202 00:18:43,83 --> 00:18:44,70 barber's comments on. 203 00:18:53,07 --> 00:18:57,55 The motion carried. It was removed. 204 00:19:03,63 --> 00:19:06,94 From the. Twenty six day 205 00:19:07,51 --> 00:19:13,37 a resolution appropriating funds for the. Control application for the engineering 206 00:19:13,38 --> 00:19:17,14 for the Washington Street over Spring Creek improvement project it is recommended 207 00:19:17,80 --> 00:19:19,92 and be adopted. 208 00:19:28,67 --> 00:19:28,92 By. 209 00:19:38,51 --> 00:19:39,17 Objection. 210 00:19:54,36 --> 00:19:59,72 Representative. For the American Cancer Society. With landmark 211 00:19:59,73 --> 00:20:17,29 a. Proclamation 212 00:20:17,44 --> 00:20:20,33 before I read it this is for Relay for Life which is 213 00:20:20,34 --> 00:20:24,48 a flawed reason for cancer. Thank you for all the work that you're doing my father 214 00:20:24,49 --> 00:20:30,11 passed away from cancer so my family knows firsthand you know what this disease can 215 00:20:30,12 --> 00:20:34,74 do without it touches. Proclamation Where is Relay for Life is 216 00:20:34,75 --> 00:20:38,55 a signature fundraising event for the American cancer society that celebrates 217 00:20:38,56 --> 00:20:42,77 cancer survivors anyone who has been diagnosed with cancer remembers loved ones 218 00:20:42,78 --> 00:20:47,09 lost to the disease where is the American Cancer Society Relay for Life brings the 219 00:20:47,10 --> 00:20:51,25 community together to take up the fight against cancer whereas money raised during 220 00:20:51,26 --> 00:20:55,76 the Relay for Life of Jolie It helps support research patient services education 221 00:20:55,77 --> 00:20:59,79 advocacy where it's really for life helps fund more than one hundred million in 222 00:20:59,80 --> 00:21:01,64 cancer research each year and 223 00:21:01,65 --> 00:21:05,49 a total more than three point eight billion dollars has been investing cancer 224 00:21:05,50 --> 00:21:09,24 research since one nine hundred forty six No Therefore I Thomas you're on the mayor 225 00:21:09,25 --> 00:21:12,89 of the city of Joliet I'm here for the job at city council do hereby proclaim the 226 00:21:12,90 --> 00:21:17,08 month of June two thousand and thirteen is really for life days in Joliet and 227 00:21:17,09 --> 00:21:21,03 encourage everyone to participate in the Relay for Life of Jolie had it to Haiti I 228 00:21:21,04 --> 00:21:21,89 feel the joy of 229 00:21:21,90 --> 00:21:25,94 a moral stadium June fifteenth two thousand and thirteen two thousand and thirteen 230 00:21:26,34 --> 00:21:28,01 sign Thomas right to marry them. 231 00:21:35,66 --> 00:21:40,87 And I go first Mayor I want to again thank the city council mayor Tom Dirani for 232 00:21:40,88 --> 00:21:45,44 a continued support I was up here I think thirteen years ago when we took Joliet 233 00:21:45,45 --> 00:21:45,57 from 234 00:21:45,58 --> 00:21:50,22 a small relay to one of the largest in the state and thanks to the city's continued 235 00:21:50,23 --> 00:21:55,87 help along with the next media and enjoy it Harold knows Joliet really is not one 236 00:21:55,88 --> 00:21:58,53 of the top twenty in the state and last year we passed 237 00:21:58,54 --> 00:22:03,71 a two million dollar mark raised in the Joliet Relay for Life So again thank you we 238 00:22:03,72 --> 00:22:07,42 want to thank our sponsors it's a great event Kevin's going to tell you 239 00:22:07,43 --> 00:22:11,37 a little bit more about it but remember it's open to everybody come on out come out 240 00:22:11,38 --> 00:22:16,18 and walk the first lap with Mayor Giuliani at two o'clock we kick it off but thank 241 00:22:16,19 --> 00:22:19,91 you for your continued support and all that the survivors and the people who we 242 00:22:19,92 --> 00:22:23,78 lost to cancer with thank you we are making gains and at two million dollars from 243 00:22:23,79 --> 00:22:28,34 the Julia residence that and all the people who participated we're making small 244 00:22:28,35 --> 00:22:32,20 gains and hopefully someday our grandkids or our kids won't have to hear those 245 00:22:32,21 --> 00:22:37,38 nasty words that you know you have cancer so thank you once again thank you very 246 00:22:37,39 --> 00:22:42,26 much for all of your exit point Mr Mayor like Glen said you know really enjoy it as 247 00:22:42,27 --> 00:22:46,32 one of the top twenty five in the state of Illinois and it started out small and 248 00:22:46,33 --> 00:22:50,13 it's grown very big so we like to keep it that way and we appreciate all the 249 00:22:50,14 --> 00:22:55,24 support from our sponsors and all of you here tonight really for life it is really 250 00:22:55,25 --> 00:22:59,36 a community of and if you've never been to really before I like to describe it as 251 00:22:59,37 --> 00:23:03,36 a carnival minus the rides it's a lot of people think it's a walk or 252 00:23:03,37 --> 00:23:07,44 a race or you know drive to pass the baton because the reality is and it now it's 253 00:23:07,45 --> 00:23:08,28 more of like 254 00:23:08,29 --> 00:23:13,04 a sort of carnival community comes together and we take the fight against cancer so 255 00:23:13,40 --> 00:23:17,23 like I said we celebrate cancer survivors who are there we remember those who have 256 00:23:17,24 --> 00:23:22,90 lost their battle to disease and most importantly we fight back so I can Medicare 257 00:23:22,91 --> 00:23:25,50 She is the volunteer Aventuras which is going to talk 258 00:23:25,51 --> 00:23:30,21 a little bit about Survivor recruitment and if any of you have survivors there are 259 00:23:30,22 --> 00:23:33,53 more than welcome to come out to the event so once again thank you very much. 260 00:23:40,13 --> 00:23:46,75 Reason we're here is for survivors and to help celebrate more birthdays so. We 261 00:23:46,76 --> 00:23:52,45 invite anybody that knows us to contact to come to the event on June fifteenth. 262 00:23:53,98 --> 00:23:58,98 Can Have a nice dinner at five o'clock. Beautiful purple shirt that says I'm 263 00:23:58,99 --> 00:24:05,21 a survivor and. That there is one at two thirty 264 00:24:05,81 --> 00:24:12,17 after opening ceremonies and then there's one at six thirty. We. Are 265 00:24:12,18 --> 00:24:15,57 survivors. That we have lost during 266 00:24:15,72 --> 00:24:21,53 a beautiful ceremony that starts about nine o'clock so thank you again for this 267 00:24:21,62 --> 00:24:28,00 great party. For having us and we hope to see you all there. It's 268 00:24:28,01 --> 00:24:28,84 a carnival we don't have 269 00:24:28,85 --> 00:24:33,93 a lot of pay still but let me part about the jewelry like you know I said the 270 00:24:33,94 --> 00:24:39,89 regional can say eighty and it's the Talk of the state but on every team member the 271 00:24:39,90 --> 00:24:41,81 participate worldwide there's 272 00:24:41,82 --> 00:24:46,06 a picture of the jelly really. Which is kind of neat that the Julia really made 273 00:24:46,07 --> 00:24:48,04 a national program so. 274 00:25:02,67 --> 00:25:07,41 That's Council. Resolution of her being in agreement with Northern Illinois 275 00:25:07,42 --> 00:25:09,83 University for the development of a business for 276 00:25:09,84 --> 00:25:16,55 a fiber optic network within the city. Second 277 00:25:17,23 --> 00:25:22,32 questions. Yes. 278 00:25:32,14 --> 00:25:39,06 I carried. Regular current to twenty. Regular payroll from May 279 00:25:39,07 --> 00:25:43,74 third twenty sixteen twenty thirty three million fifty three thousand eight hundred 280 00:25:43,75 --> 00:25:49,06 thirty one dollars and five. It is recommended that regular payroll be approved. 281 00:25:51,44 --> 00:25:56,68 Questions. And. That's when. 282 00:25:58,48 --> 00:26:03,82 I. Was going to have them in. 283 00:26:06,42 --> 00:26:11,62 Motion carried in contracts under award of contracts Council. Thirteen award 284 00:26:11,63 --> 00:26:17,68 a contract for the city of mosquito abatement programme twenty thirteen. Thirteen 285 00:26:17,69 --> 00:26:17,94 award 286 00:26:17,95 --> 00:26:21,35 a contract for the two thousand and thirteen traffic signal materials purchase order 287 00:26:22,12 --> 00:26:25,93 to thirty two thirteen was removed from the agenda it is recommended Council 288 00:26:25,94 --> 00:26:29,05 members to thirty three to thirty one thirteen be approved. 289 00:26:38,26 --> 00:26:43,67 Thank you talk to us for. Making whiskey. In the budget Thank you. 290 00:26:56,01 --> 00:27:01,53 And carry amendments change orders and payments come forward thirteen approved 291 00:27:01,92 --> 00:27:04,54 number one in payment number ten and final for the two thousand and twelve. 292 00:27:05,70 --> 00:27:12,55 Contract. Thirty five thirteen approved for number three number nine and final for 293 00:27:12,56 --> 00:27:19,12 the twenty. Contract. Thirty six thirteen approved number foreign payment estimate 294 00:27:19,13 --> 00:27:24,13 number four and final for the black road for its main contract number one. Thirty 295 00:27:24,13 --> 00:27:29,07 seven. Approve Change Order Number one to the contract to furnish an install 296 00:27:29,08 --> 00:27:33,36 parking access and revenue system equipment at the regional transportation center 297 00:27:33,37 --> 00:27:37,11 parking lot pretty tight East Marion Street consummate two thirty S. 298 00:27:37,12 --> 00:27:40,27 Thirteen approved change order number to request number eight for the two thousand 299 00:27:40,28 --> 00:27:44,57 and twelve electrical maintenance assistance contract. Thirty nine dollars thirteen 300 00:27:44,58 --> 00:27:48,13 a protein or number five for the twenty top on American meter reading insulation 301 00:27:48,14 --> 00:27:51,97 project and it's recommended Council is to thirty fourth or to thirty nine days 302 00:27:51,98 --> 00:27:57,76 thirty motion so it's just 303 00:27:58,01 --> 00:28:03,16 a question sure. I was unable obviously to make a committee meeting I have 304 00:28:03,17 --> 00:28:06,30 a question on two thirty seven dash thirteen this is 305 00:28:06,31 --> 00:28:12,54 a project for the one of the parking facilities and then I would not install any of 306 00:28:12,55 --> 00:28:14,54 it yet and traditionally a change order comes as 307 00:28:14,55 --> 00:28:18,32 a present for object proceeds they come across as 308 00:28:18,33 --> 00:28:24,23 a paid of problems needs for extra equipment I'm. Extra twenty two or twenty three 309 00:28:24,24 --> 00:28:27,22 thousand dollars what made this happen is 310 00:28:27,23 --> 00:28:31,65 a twenty two thousand five member and if we do not start of the project was 311 00:28:31,67 --> 00:28:35,60 a some time was originally in the bed for 312 00:28:35,62 --> 00:28:39,90 a seal better public that you know let me address the project first the project has 313 00:28:39,91 --> 00:28:46,59 started and just over there about four or five thirty this afternoon the equipment 314 00:28:46,61 --> 00:28:51,36 has actually been installed at the two entry points to the new parking lot take 315 00:28:51,37 --> 00:28:55,84 a right over there and you'll see that the gates are up the cameras are up then 316 00:28:55,84 --> 00:29:00,18 a few other things that go along with that are up as well as the pay station so 317 00:29:00,43 --> 00:29:07,35 that's happened. As far as the changes that precipitated the three items that need 318 00:29:07,36 --> 00:29:12,100 to be changed I guess and I'm not sure if anybody has the. Handles there for us 319 00:29:13,92 --> 00:29:18,49 I've set out in the bottom of the first page of the council memo the reasons for 320 00:29:18,50 --> 00:29:24,17 the change or we go through those if you'd like. To read them very quickly. 321 00:29:30,08 --> 00:29:33,81 It looks like the three items are dealing with issues that have arisen since the 322 00:29:33,82 --> 00:29:38,68 original ward of the contract they were not included in the original bid package 323 00:29:38,92 --> 00:29:39,71 one was due to 324 00:29:39,72 --> 00:29:46,37 a delay on the command center piece of the project. And that we now 325 00:29:46,38 --> 00:29:51,33 have information from Amtrak and Metro security forces as to what we need to help 326 00:29:51,34 --> 00:29:56,37 them with their security needs and that's I think that precipitated some of the 327 00:29:56,38 --> 00:30:03,20 change the delay in getting that information. OK so we didn't hear some of the new 328 00:30:03,21 --> 00:30:04,60 information since we had one with 329 00:30:04,61 --> 00:30:09,58 a bit opening probably about six weeks ago or four weeks ago I don't recall the 330 00:30:09,83 --> 00:30:14,50 cycle on that but and these pieces were in that packet that was there was 331 00:30:14,51 --> 00:30:20,07 a change the to the cabinet in the conduits. And that was not in the original 332 00:30:20,92 --> 00:30:27,74 package. Deals with getting information from other agencies and three 333 00:30:28,20 --> 00:30:35,15 deals with. An issue dealing with. Being able to 334 00:30:35,15 --> 00:30:40,59 do the work more efficiently since they're out there and it's an add on to what we 335 00:30:40,59 --> 00:30:45,75 asked them to do originally thank you but I also. 336 00:30:50,04 --> 00:30:56,76 I have my own. Right 337 00:30:57,02 --> 00:31:03,96 and. I can carry license and permit. 338 00:31:05,24 --> 00:31:11,71 Council. Approved yesterday. When your mayor the 339 00:31:11,72 --> 00:31:16,67 proclamation was previously presented to next week for final action if 340 00:31:18,85 --> 00:31:23,24 you have one thing I want to make 341 00:31:23,25 --> 00:31:29,89 a request for pre-concert we move up citizens to be reasoned patients 342 00:31:30,84 --> 00:31:35,59 that way if we have some citizens that want to come here and let's say their piece 343 00:31:35,60 --> 00:31:42,56 they don't have to leave it. Considered for two weeks from 344 00:31:42,82 --> 00:31:49,71 the next council comments. Council 345 00:31:49,72 --> 00:31:55,71 comments. On the trial. 346 00:31:59,65 --> 00:32:04,69 I've no comment so. I'm 347 00:32:04,70 --> 00:32:12,49 a country. We 348 00:32:12,67 --> 00:32:18,91 the People. In I guess briefly I just reiterate something that was said in 349 00:32:18,92 --> 00:32:21,63 executive session yesterday. It's been 350 00:32:21,84 --> 00:32:27,95 a tough couple weeks for the council and I commend everybody who has worked through 351 00:32:27,96 --> 00:32:32,06 it I commend Tom Davis for the statement he made yesterday and i do we set the 352 00:32:32,07 --> 00:32:37,57 record straight and I just would probably make the appeal that we said privately if 353 00:32:38,01 --> 00:32:41,31 it's members of this council there are some differences of opinion and they're I 354 00:32:41,32 --> 00:32:44,97 guess have some differences but we all have to work together maybe I think you 355 00:32:45,01 --> 00:32:48,86 acknowledge that today you know I look forward to the next two years working 356 00:32:48,86 --> 00:32:50,59 together and try to come together as 357 00:32:50,61 --> 00:32:55,75 a council and do what's best for the people Julia and I invite everyone else to 358 00:32:55,95 --> 00:33:02,69 come along so they can you know. It's going to be our 359 00:33:02,70 --> 00:33:09,65 first diversity committee meeting that will be held here. To hold it up here 360 00:33:09,66 --> 00:33:09,75 in 361 00:33:09,76 --> 00:33:18,64 a conference probably the planning conference. But 362 00:33:18,64 --> 00:33:18,93 we'll find 363 00:33:18,93 --> 00:33:24,23 a place to be at four thirty on the town and that'll be our preliminary me about 364 00:33:24,24 --> 00:33:29,56 what we want the committee to establish and you know everyone's invited to calm and 365 00:33:29,57 --> 00:33:34,41 it's about more like you know community concerns and issues that people have that 366 00:33:34,42 --> 00:33:38,54 when they come to the council like they're being heard they can talk to three 367 00:33:38,56 --> 00:33:44,40 counts and and can do it and go from there and so. 368 00:33:45,52 --> 00:33:51,32 Anyone's interested in coming it's June town or thirty and I get to be 369 00:33:51,33 --> 00:33:54,47 a preliminary meeting to discuss what we want to kind of 370 00:33:58,18 --> 00:34:02,67 have a couple things. But 371 00:34:02,68 --> 00:34:09,67 a few people here. Is you Carol. When in fact you are whoever meets 372 00:34:09,68 --> 00:34:15,99 with them. Comments and considerations about times and so on 373 00:34:18,03 --> 00:34:24,48 also I want to thank everyone for their cards or get. Some good because it'll be 374 00:34:24,49 --> 00:34:29,27 two weeks or more. So I still have 375 00:34:29,28 --> 00:34:36,09 a little pain but expected that Friday night. New Orleans 376 00:34:36,10 --> 00:34:39,43 night downtown starts at five o'clock I know last year was a was 377 00:34:39,44 --> 00:34:41,62 a great time come on down supposed to be 378 00:34:41,64 --> 00:34:46,69 a nice night and on June fifteenth the jolly Historical Museum on 379 00:34:46,70 --> 00:34:52,20 a rooftop party with fifties and sixties music on the rooftop at the museum you 380 00:34:52,21 --> 00:34:58,59 might want to look out for that that's all. You have to buy in advance for the top 381 00:34:58,59 --> 00:35:04,91 . Just environment of yes 382 00:35:05,95 --> 00:35:12,69 yes sure I just think that I think. The barber 383 00:35:13,50 --> 00:35:17,28 and I just. Come. 384 00:35:20,77 --> 00:35:25,69 Back to the point. Me. I love my job. 385 00:35:27,89 --> 00:35:33,96 And everybody. You got any comments about ever doing their job or do anything else 386 00:35:34,26 --> 00:35:40,81 please come. Straight from. You know I get it. 387 00:35:43,79 --> 00:35:44,03 Just 388 00:35:44,04 --> 00:35:49,12 a quick question either for the mayor or for the city stamp you know this morning I 389 00:35:49,13 --> 00:35:54,30 had the opportunity to listen to the mayor. This morning and you gave 390 00:35:54,31 --> 00:35:58,02 a pretty. Nice snapshot of what C.C.A. 391 00:35:58,03 --> 00:36:02,38 Was proposing for the city generally and how they came the Julienne and they 392 00:36:02,39 --> 00:36:06,84 presented the twenty five business leaders I'm just kind of curious why the council 393 00:36:06,96 --> 00:36:09,54 would have the final decision on bring in such 394 00:36:09,55 --> 00:36:14,00 a facility here we're never in the afforded the opportunity to have such 395 00:36:14,01 --> 00:36:19,45 a presentation but to have this business group presented and for us to have to take 396 00:36:19,46 --> 00:36:23,40 a formal vote to ask them to come and present to us I just want to throw some 397 00:36:23,41 --> 00:36:29,29 clarification when I have to do it tonight but I'd just like to know why we allow 398 00:36:29,30 --> 00:36:34,27 that to happen and allowed for the the public to speculate and wonder and to spew 399 00:36:34,28 --> 00:36:39,26 out as you call misinformation into windows when your reality in my opinion from 400 00:36:39,27 --> 00:36:44,41 hearing your interview this morning you know exactly what was being proposed so I 401 00:36:44,42 --> 00:36:46,63 just like some clarification on that because I got 402 00:36:46,64 --> 00:36:50,82 a ton of phone calls and and went back and listened to the interview myself this 403 00:36:50,83 --> 00:36:55,72 morning and I think that there needs to be addressed for the citizens of the reason 404 00:36:55,72 --> 00:37:02,32 . Like. When we talk to look like they were ready to 405 00:37:02,67 --> 00:37:08,63 come here so we didn't come to the curb meeting subsequently everything got pushed 406 00:37:08,63 --> 00:37:15,53 . Mr Mayor and 407 00:37:15,78 --> 00:37:20,39 Mr Mayor members of the council it was at a time when it looked like C.C.A. 408 00:37:20,40 --> 00:37:22,25 Was going to file a petition for 409 00:37:22,26 --> 00:37:27,88 a special use permit and it's not uncommon when we have projects coming forward 410 00:37:28,14 --> 00:37:33,52 that have an impact on the community that we ask the developer or the proponent of 411 00:37:34,27 --> 00:37:36,22 or the. Promoter of 412 00:37:36,23 --> 00:37:42,93 a project to meet with stakeholders and I think this was the first opportunity 413 00:37:42,94 --> 00:37:48,29 for a meeting with anybody from Joliet came in and made 414 00:37:48,30 --> 00:37:53,80 a presentation that meeting was probably held about four or five months ago it was 415 00:37:53,81 --> 00:37:58,89 probably winter time when that proposal and that presentation was made and I think 416 00:37:58,90 --> 00:37:59,28 it was at 417 00:37:59,29 --> 00:38:04,05 a time when understanding was we would probably hear from the federal government 418 00:38:04,20 --> 00:38:07,67 ice as far as whether. It would be 419 00:38:07,68 --> 00:38:12,02 a suitable location and I think after that meeting though it became apparent that 420 00:38:12,03 --> 00:38:15,50 ice wasn't going to be weighing in in the near future it looked like they were 421 00:38:15,51 --> 00:38:19,88 going to wait until there was an immigration bill introduced and debated and passed 422 00:38:19,89 --> 00:38:26,57 by Congress so I think there was just by default it didn't move forward and the 423 00:38:26,58 --> 00:38:31,17 need to start the process of meeting with other stakeholders including the city 424 00:38:31,18 --> 00:38:37,32 council that was basically put on the back burner by. Thank you and 425 00:38:38,08 --> 00:38:41,58 if I might comment on that I feel embarrassed as 426 00:38:41,59 --> 00:38:46,17 a representative then because for all those months I myself myself and if not all 427 00:38:46,18 --> 00:38:50,81 most of the council members up here we presented to the public that there couldn't 428 00:38:50,82 --> 00:38:50,89 be 429 00:38:50,90 --> 00:38:54,92 a presentation because there's nothing on the table we can't you know discuss it because 430 00:38:54,93 --> 00:38:58,82 there's nothing being offered and if I misunderstood councilman MacFarlane please 431 00:38:58,83 --> 00:39:03,24 correct me if question is if there was enough to present to the non-elected 432 00:39:03,28 --> 00:39:08,46 business leaders. And they're considered stakeholders and yes they are stakeholders 433 00:39:08,47 --> 00:39:12,71 as are each of the citizens I still don't hear the answer why it didn't come to us 434 00:39:12,72 --> 00:39:17,19 first as we sat here on some of these contentious meetings when we had protestors 435 00:39:17,23 --> 00:39:22,45 and I myself said on several occasions we have no information there is nothing in 436 00:39:22,46 --> 00:39:26,99 writing there is nothing to be presented and then this morning after I got phone 437 00:39:27,00 --> 00:39:31,01 calls and talks I was into the pod cast under the jail wall and your honor you said 438 00:39:31,33 --> 00:39:35,84 the presentation was made to the card members what was in that presentation and I 439 00:39:35,85 --> 00:39:41,03 don't hear the excuse of why we weren't given it first I think time I think time 440 00:39:41,03 --> 00:39:46,88 just answered it well I think there was. I think when you heard me speak on it 441 00:39:46,89 --> 00:39:52,27 several occasions I had indicated that. There was nothing ready for 442 00:39:52,28 --> 00:39:56,33 a formal review to go through the process and that I knew it was 443 00:39:56,34 --> 00:40:01,13 a controversial issue when the first call came to me about the project and I 444 00:40:01,14 --> 00:40:07,10 thought that I sense that the city council was more interested in waiting until 445 00:40:07,11 --> 00:40:07,34 there was 446 00:40:07,35 --> 00:40:11,25 a real project before you were asked to vote on it because I knew that you needed 447 00:40:11,26 --> 00:40:16,08 to have the record fully developed you needed to hear from all stakeholders all 448 00:40:16,09 --> 00:40:22,33 community. Participants who have involved themselves either for the project or 449 00:40:22,34 --> 00:40:24,42 against the project and bring it to 450 00:40:24,46 --> 00:40:29,08 a presentation where you were asked to vote probably would have been cream at that 451 00:40:29,09 --> 00:40:33,100 point because really we didn't know all the details we didn't know what the federal 452 00:40:34,01 --> 00:40:38,59 government wanted to do in the Chicago area and I thought that it would be 453 00:40:38,60 --> 00:40:45,48 speculative to bring it to you to ask you for. It at that point. You know I 454 00:40:45,49 --> 00:40:49,90 under certainly understand I think I was talking about the same details that the 455 00:40:49,91 --> 00:40:54,93 mayor may have referenced this morning. About the number of jobs being created 456 00:40:54,94 --> 00:40:58,49 because that's the information that was given to me initially when I first started 457 00:40:58,50 --> 00:41:02,18 meeting with representatives of the company and I think that's probably what was 458 00:41:02,19 --> 00:41:07,24 said there's probably eight or nine points that go along with that and I'm sure 459 00:41:07,25 --> 00:41:11,95 that's what and again I didn't hear the entire I didn't hear the the. The interview 460 00:41:11,96 --> 00:41:15,99 so I'm not sure what the mayor said but I'm assuming it was job creation revenue 461 00:41:15,100 --> 00:41:21,36 for the schools. You know sixty million dollars for the investment those types of 462 00:41:21,37 --> 00:41:26,10 things those are details that I thought we had shared publicly but I never really 463 00:41:26,11 --> 00:41:28,18 got into the details as 464 00:41:28,19 --> 00:41:32,74 a boilerplate boilerplate presentation it makes on the type of facility that 465 00:41:32,75 --> 00:41:37,48 they're promoting in Joliet and other locations and they have renderings of what it 466 00:41:37,49 --> 00:41:41,72 would look like if it were built and I think that's what they were you know they 467 00:41:41,73 --> 00:41:46,30 would have shown had they continued on that we had suggested to them that they were 468 00:41:46,67 --> 00:41:53,17 they make presentations and neighborhood organizations. Community groups interested 469 00:41:53,18 --> 00:41:57,36 in it rotary quantised Exchange Club those types of organizations if it were going 470 00:41:57,37 --> 00:41:59,18 to move forward because it was such 471 00:41:59,19 --> 00:42:03,35 a controversial issue that we wanted to make sure that their presentation was heard 472 00:42:03,36 --> 00:42:07,28 by many but when it became apparent that there wasn't going to be guidance from the 473 00:42:07,29 --> 00:42:10,15 federal government there was a decision made by C.C.A. 474 00:42:10,16 --> 00:42:12,31 Just to pull back wait until there's 475 00:42:12,32 --> 00:42:17,16 a better direction and then decide at that point whether the presentation should 476 00:42:17,17 --> 00:42:21,99 read Don thank you and also to I want to because I was told about Spock as I listen 477 00:42:22,00 --> 00:42:26,68 to the entire fifteen minutes. If you don't mind around with all due respect I've 478 00:42:26,69 --> 00:42:30,24 just got two questions for you time I first want to thank you for last night you 479 00:42:30,25 --> 00:42:34,06 stepped up and clear the air of the melodrama developed melodrama that was very 480 00:42:34,07 --> 00:42:40,23 hard on you and I'm sure your family and you made it simple perfectly clear about 481 00:42:40,24 --> 00:42:44,79 your want to which I said it was Tom's decision Your Honor why did you go on the 482 00:42:44,80 --> 00:42:49,75 radio today and peel the scabs off that wound and make the accusation that you're 483 00:42:49,76 --> 00:42:52,90 pressured by certain council members again and please point out those council 484 00:42:52,91 --> 00:42:56,82 members of this point because I can no longer tolerate anybody on this council 485 00:42:56,83 --> 00:43:02,60 pointing fingers and you wonder at certain members say if you say to me Say it's me 486 00:43:02,99 --> 00:43:09,85 all I said was that time there's nobody that likes Joliet more than time OK 487 00:43:10,12 --> 00:43:14,32 Tom has never asked for a pay raise OK he doesn't have 488 00:43:14,33 --> 00:43:20,95 a job waiting with those issues why would he be leaving. That's what I said 489 00:43:22,80 --> 00:43:26,87 you said he was pressured out of the fifteen minutes I didn't say it was pressured 490 00:43:27,68 --> 00:43:30,43 and I don't know if I said I would use pressure out I did make 491 00:43:30,44 --> 00:43:35,83 a statement like I just said does make you make good money he does he's done 492 00:43:35,84 --> 00:43:38,80 a lot of things including pulling the side of 493 00:43:38,81 --> 00:43:41,93 a seventeen million dollar deficit and he does not have 494 00:43:41,94 --> 00:43:47,58 a job waiting with all those things in mind why would he believe it can I ask 495 00:43:47,59 --> 00:43:51,72 a general favor of everybody up or that all good conscience let's let this go to 496 00:43:51,73 --> 00:43:55,39 bed once and for all for the sake of time thing on us in the family he clarified it 497 00:43:55,61 --> 00:43:59,61 there is no question public would be asked why he decided to resign he explained 498 00:43:59,62 --> 00:44:03,11 himself last night and everything past that needs to be private for time thing out 499 00:44:03,12 --> 00:44:08,64 of. There you did this morning I was asked questions they asked me to be honored he 500 00:44:08,64 --> 00:44:14,93 asked questions and I give my opinion. Goes back to 501 00:44:15,79 --> 00:44:22,31 radio the day after close session. Asked me if my belief that. 502 00:44:24,07 --> 00:44:25,37 Being forced out and I thought for 503 00:44:25,38 --> 00:44:31,18 a minute and I told my thought he was and I thought I could get my own opinion and 504 00:44:31,18 --> 00:44:35,08 I think I would title my own opinion other council members on this diocese give 505 00:44:35,09 --> 00:44:40,81 their. Opinions on things and I that's my opinion I did mention the missed meanings 506 00:44:41,35 --> 00:44:46,85 and you know I think there are some things that I'm not going to say here reach 507 00:44:46,86 --> 00:44:52,16 that confidentiality but the night before Tom told us that somebody shoes were and 508 00:44:52,16 --> 00:44:58,76 . That's all I'm going to say I'd like to state is that what happened. 509 00:45:01,04 --> 00:45:07,31 At the movie you know I think. Said it well but I don't know really nobody was 510 00:45:07,32 --> 00:45:14,04 listening. To 511 00:45:14,05 --> 00:45:16,08 a journal and. I.